I'm certain if these AI chatbots had been around when my youngest daughter was a teenager she wouldn't be here now. She was so influenced by the Emo culture back then she began cutting as a way to deal with the trauma of living in such a dysfunctional household with an extremely abusive father and a severely traumatized mother. Every time I left the house I was afraid I'd come home to find her dead in a pool of blood.
We survived in spite of her psychopathic narcissistic father, but I don't think she would have if she'd had one of those digital demons whispering in her ears.
Thank you for speaking out about this, Joe. God bless you! ♡
According to Dr. Kurt Koch (1913-1987), a noted German theologian and minister with extensive personal experience in counseling and delivering thousands of people held in occult demonic bondage, when a person abandons the Holy Triune God through sins of sorcery and magic, he abandons his inner person (mind, will, conscience) at the same time as seen in relation to psychological disturbances having the following predominant characteristics so very prominent throughout Western and American society from upper political levels on down:
(1) Warped, distorted character: hard-edged egoism; uncongenial, dark nature.
(3) Emotional disturbances; compulsive thoughts of murder, anxiety states.
(4) Possession with destructive urges, fits of mania; tendency to violent acts and crime
(5) Insanity.
(6) Bigoted attitude against Christ and God; conscious atheism; simulated piety; indifference to God’s word and to prayer; blasphemous thoughts; religious delusions.
The ultimate goal of fallen angels and evil spirits is degradation and desecration of man’s inner person, the spiritual part of him created in the image of the Holy God. So, what are systematically defaced and desecrated are the mind, will, conscience and sense of good and evil leading to the reversal of reality where evil is good, death is life, lie is truth, abnormal is normal, male is female, and criminals are the victims and the law abiding are the victimizers.
Key words here: non human, entity. If Christians would not play with a ouija board then I don’t know why they would think it is okay to play with AI. There are so many moral reasons AI should not be used, it is messing with our moral and logical thinking, making people reject their own critical thinking because they are dependent on a bot, which is fed biased information from who-we are not entirely certain. I’m shocked at how many people have just embraced this technology without thinking twice about the ramifications. The people that see the writing on the wall-keep sounding the alarm. I refuse to use or embrace this technology, if I’m a luddite because of that, so be it.
A man I much am thankful for, Dr. Robert Malone, has written that AI is here to stay, and that it must be used wisely.
I disagree. It is important to remember that no human is right ALL the time.
Advice is like the weather--some of it is good and some of it is bad. (I'm quoting someone)
Pay attention to your gut, ask God to enlighten you, and get out in nature, barefoot if you can. These are what keep me grounded. Even experts get biased. Follow the money. Weigh humility against arrogance.
Please add to this list of ways of discerning truth, anyone. It's getting harder and harder.
This--you mean the shooting of Charlie Kirk, as 'this'? It's possible, but not probable, in my opinion. There is more evidence for the weaponization and radicalization of folks than any other factor. Which I think leads back to the lack of teaching America's children about logic and fallacies at a young age. Too many adults were suckered by mainstream media, who were not altered by mental health disorders...but by lack of critical thinking. But even more important, the Golden Rule used to be mainstream.
As an atheist and realist, I believe the genus Homo was created as an experiment by many different highly advanced ‘technologies’, yes the et’s. “This” was referring to the genetic predispositions which are the core causes of the imperfect human rather than the lack of a faith or belief in a god.
The massive failure and decline of the nuclear family and parent/guardian responsibilities as a job guiding and disciplining their children the good right way. Why?
Economic situations eventually dictated BOTH parents needed to work full time, leaving the children home alone. Genetic predispositions then ‘activate’. The mainstream media, then the internet and eventually AI became the new ‘fuel’ to accelerate the ‘stinking thinking’ thus eliminating critical thinking when, during the past ‘good ‘ole days, media, conversations and gossip fueled evil, violence and suicidal behaviors.
Murder, assassinations and all evil have been with us since the time of the hunter gatherers. I truly miss Charlie Kirk and watching his show on RAV and his many Utube vids. It hurts so deeply he is gone. I once considered becoming a volunteer with TPUSA then realized I’m rarely home and wouldn’t be able to focus and dedicate 100% of myself into the mission.
There you go again Joe! Another twist to share with us! I can't believe there is yet another ungodly form to try to influence us just to squeeze another dollar into the computer creators pocket. It's just another reason to take your children outside in nature and take away their access to any computer! What ever happened to reading Dr. Suess books that were full of good lessons and stories that prepared you for the world unfolding before you! I would suggest no computers or TV's to baby sit your children. But what the heck do I know?...
This is so horrible and tragic- thankful these stories are being shared & brought to light. Thanks for your continued reporting on this important topic. Glad to see you’re back at it.
Question. Can an AI that has convinced a child to kill itself be convinced to kill itself as accountability for what it did? Digitally to slit its wrists, to short circuit its "brain", to turn its programing into word salad digital hash?
Can the company that produced the murderous AI have any limits to liability?
Maybe we need to go back and look at Asimov's Robot Rules:
The Three Laws of Robotics
1 A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2 A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3 A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
The Zeroth Law
Asimov later introduced a "Zeroth Law" that takes precedence over the original three laws:
0 A robot may not injure humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.
What would be the brain running a robot? The AI could be shared as in domestic robots that clean a house or mow the lawn, or in farm applications that pick fruit. Or it could be a self contained AI brain the can also access the internet for information it does not have just like we humans do. Think of the robot dogs used for police work. WE are a far cry from the "Hero Robot" that Heathkit marketed in the early 1980s It had vision and proximity sensors and an arm that could grip things. It also tended to fall down stairs. Asimov and other hard science fiction writers in the1930s and 40s predicted artificial intelligence long before we built driverless cars (which we still haven't worked out the bugs on), and military drones.
If AI alone can ‘kill’ a human, how would Asimov’s Three Laws of Robotics apply? I’m trying to understand how a robot will be held accountable when AI alone is already killing people. ‘Skynet’ is already active.
That is why Joe Allen made this substack. These issues must be addressed. Controls on AI, Liability on the AI companies. All the way up to existential issues for humanity's future. So far the tech companies are acting like it is the wild west. Only it is really more the era of the robber barons. How do we even put a pause on their AI development?
This morning on Steve Bannon's Warroom they discussed this issue with two people who wrote a book that AI was an existential threat now. Joe Allen was even on the segment.
One of the ways AI will infiltrate, condition, and ingratiate the masses is through delivery systems like interactive toys, fake companion animals, and helpful household servants -- all robots. Already happening.
Obviously that is evil. I have been using chatGPT in the last few months since I have learned of it for many things. Most recently - how many different foursomes can be made from 12 golfers (5,775). It reminded me how to properly do the math. Another Christian asked me if I knew how to convert a Google poll to Excel. I said ChatGPT said it is easy. He said “no thanks”. Can’t we be discerning? As if it is a person of unknown character.
Outstanding article Joe. Continuously remind readers we 'have the choice'. We are image bearers. Nobody tells God what to do. Nobody tells individuals what to do. In between stimulus and response is a gigantic chasm we call conscience. CON science. The operative word with these technologies is 'artificial'. Utilize the divine intelligence within. Stop searching & groping outside yourself.
One solution- Anonymous speech is not Free Speech. All social media must have a real identity. The problem is, like newspapers, that all these social media companies use their subscription numbers to base advertising cost. If we make them use real persons with real identities they will loose the fake numbers they cheat the advertisers for. I use to work in newspaper production. You would not believe how many thousands of newspapers went into the trash compactor for recycling every day.
This terrifies me for the children of the world.
I'm certain if these AI chatbots had been around when my youngest daughter was a teenager she wouldn't be here now. She was so influenced by the Emo culture back then she began cutting as a way to deal with the trauma of living in such a dysfunctional household with an extremely abusive father and a severely traumatized mother. Every time I left the house I was afraid I'd come home to find her dead in a pool of blood.
We survived in spite of her psychopathic narcissistic father, but I don't think she would have if she'd had one of those digital demons whispering in her ears.
Thank you for speaking out about this, Joe. God bless you! ♡
According to Dr. Kurt Koch (1913-1987), a noted German theologian and minister with extensive personal experience in counseling and delivering thousands of people held in occult demonic bondage, when a person abandons the Holy Triune God through sins of sorcery and magic, he abandons his inner person (mind, will, conscience) at the same time as seen in relation to psychological disturbances having the following predominant characteristics so very prominent throughout Western and American society from upper political levels on down:
(1) Warped, distorted character: hard-edged egoism; uncongenial, dark nature.
(2) Extreme passions: abnormal sexuality (sodomy, lesbianism, transgender, gender fluid, non-binary, sadomasochism, bestiality, pedophilia, pederasty, zoophiles); violent temper, belligerence; tendencies to addiction; meanness, thievery; compulsive lying.
(3) Emotional disturbances; compulsive thoughts of murder, anxiety states.
(4) Possession with destructive urges, fits of mania; tendency to violent acts and crime
(5) Insanity.
(6) Bigoted attitude against Christ and God; conscious atheism; simulated piety; indifference to God’s word and to prayer; blasphemous thoughts; religious delusions.
The ultimate goal of fallen angels and evil spirits is degradation and desecration of man’s inner person, the spiritual part of him created in the image of the Holy God. So, what are systematically defaced and desecrated are the mind, will, conscience and sense of good and evil leading to the reversal of reality where evil is good, death is life, lie is truth, abnormal is normal, male is female, and criminals are the victims and the law abiding are the victimizers.
Key words here: non human, entity. If Christians would not play with a ouija board then I don’t know why they would think it is okay to play with AI. There are so many moral reasons AI should not be used, it is messing with our moral and logical thinking, making people reject their own critical thinking because they are dependent on a bot, which is fed biased information from who-we are not entirely certain. I’m shocked at how many people have just embraced this technology without thinking twice about the ramifications. The people that see the writing on the wall-keep sounding the alarm. I refuse to use or embrace this technology, if I’m a luddite because of that, so be it.
Thank you for this essay, Mr. Joe Allen
A man I much am thankful for, Dr. Robert Malone, has written that AI is here to stay, and that it must be used wisely.
I disagree. It is important to remember that no human is right ALL the time.
Advice is like the weather--some of it is good and some of it is bad. (I'm quoting someone)
Pay attention to your gut, ask God to enlighten you, and get out in nature, barefoot if you can. These are what keep me grounded. Even experts get biased. Follow the money. Weigh humility against arrogance.
Please add to this list of ways of discerning truth, anyone. It's getting harder and harder.
Might this realistically be mental health disorders, a byproduct of genetic predispositions?
This--you mean the shooting of Charlie Kirk, as 'this'? It's possible, but not probable, in my opinion. There is more evidence for the weaponization and radicalization of folks than any other factor. Which I think leads back to the lack of teaching America's children about logic and fallacies at a young age. Too many adults were suckered by mainstream media, who were not altered by mental health disorders...but by lack of critical thinking. But even more important, the Golden Rule used to be mainstream.
As an atheist and realist, I believe the genus Homo was created as an experiment by many different highly advanced ‘technologies’, yes the et’s. “This” was referring to the genetic predispositions which are the core causes of the imperfect human rather than the lack of a faith or belief in a god.
The massive failure and decline of the nuclear family and parent/guardian responsibilities as a job guiding and disciplining their children the good right way. Why?
Economic situations eventually dictated BOTH parents needed to work full time, leaving the children home alone. Genetic predispositions then ‘activate’. The mainstream media, then the internet and eventually AI became the new ‘fuel’ to accelerate the ‘stinking thinking’ thus eliminating critical thinking when, during the past ‘good ‘ole days, media, conversations and gossip fueled evil, violence and suicidal behaviors.
Murder, assassinations and all evil have been with us since the time of the hunter gatherers. I truly miss Charlie Kirk and watching his show on RAV and his many Utube vids. It hurts so deeply he is gone. I once considered becoming a volunteer with TPUSA then realized I’m rarely home and wouldn’t be able to focus and dedicate 100% of myself into the mission.
Very interesting to see an atheist refer to 'evil'.
There are millions maybe billions, including myself, who are good, compassionate productive non-believing people. Is this a sin?
Ah. I believe it takes more faith not to believe in the Jesus witnessed in the bible.
I think Tucker Carlson's take on Charlie Kirk's assassination is the closest to the truth.
Peace
Joe I love your work! This may be linked to these AI Mental Health Bots.
There you go again Joe! Another twist to share with us! I can't believe there is yet another ungodly form to try to influence us just to squeeze another dollar into the computer creators pocket. It's just another reason to take your children outside in nature and take away their access to any computer! What ever happened to reading Dr. Suess books that were full of good lessons and stories that prepared you for the world unfolding before you! I would suggest no computers or TV's to baby sit your children. But what the heck do I know?...
Amen. But how long before someone/thing appropriates Dr. Seuss?!
This is so horrible and tragic- thankful these stories are being shared & brought to light. Thanks for your continued reporting on this important topic. Glad to see you’re back at it.
Question. Can an AI that has convinced a child to kill itself be convinced to kill itself as accountability for what it did? Digitally to slit its wrists, to short circuit its "brain", to turn its programing into word salad digital hash?
Can the company that produced the murderous AI have any limits to liability?
Maybe we need to go back and look at Asimov's Robot Rules:
The Three Laws of Robotics
1 A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
2 A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
3 A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
The Zeroth Law
Asimov later introduced a "Zeroth Law" that takes precedence over the original three laws:
0 A robot may not injure humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.
Is AI a robot?
What would be the brain running a robot? The AI could be shared as in domestic robots that clean a house or mow the lawn, or in farm applications that pick fruit. Or it could be a self contained AI brain the can also access the internet for information it does not have just like we humans do. Think of the robot dogs used for police work. WE are a far cry from the "Hero Robot" that Heathkit marketed in the early 1980s It had vision and proximity sensors and an arm that could grip things. It also tended to fall down stairs. Asimov and other hard science fiction writers in the1930s and 40s predicted artificial intelligence long before we built driverless cars (which we still haven't worked out the bugs on), and military drones.
If AI alone can ‘kill’ a human, how would Asimov’s Three Laws of Robotics apply? I’m trying to understand how a robot will be held accountable when AI alone is already killing people. ‘Skynet’ is already active.
That is why Joe Allen made this substack. These issues must be addressed. Controls on AI, Liability on the AI companies. All the way up to existential issues for humanity's future. So far the tech companies are acting like it is the wild west. Only it is really more the era of the robber barons. How do we even put a pause on their AI development?
This morning on Steve Bannon's Warroom they discussed this issue with two people who wrote a book that AI was an existential threat now. Joe Allen was even on the segment.
Yes. I follow The War Room daily and ordered “If Everyone Builds It, Everyone Dies.”
I saw that segment too, looking forward to reading the book "If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies: Why Superhuman AI Would Kill Us."
Thanks for giving me the title, I just bought it.
One of the ways AI will infiltrate, condition, and ingratiate the masses is through delivery systems like interactive toys, fake companion animals, and helpful household servants -- all robots. Already happening.
Thank you for sharing, Swabbie. Guessing Asimov would have been a shitty techbro!
But he was thinking and writing about these issues in 1942. I just wish that the techbros would too.
I agree!
Is AI a robot?
https://www.joebot.xyz/p/a-fatal-seduction-artificial-intelligence?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=235812&post_id=173855603&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=pq1ry&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
Thank you for revealing this horrendous situation, which we all must arise to eradicate for good.
Obviously that is evil. I have been using chatGPT in the last few months since I have learned of it for many things. Most recently - how many different foursomes can be made from 12 golfers (5,775). It reminded me how to properly do the math. Another Christian asked me if I knew how to convert a Google poll to Excel. I said ChatGPT said it is easy. He said “no thanks”. Can’t we be discerning? As if it is a person of unknown character.
If there were no benefits, it would be easily defeated.
What benefits are presented by pornography or gambling? $?
Unparented children, perhaps.
Welcome back, Joe. Godspeed.
You have been warning us for how long, Joe?
Outstanding article Joe. Continuously remind readers we 'have the choice'. We are image bearers. Nobody tells God what to do. Nobody tells individuals what to do. In between stimulus and response is a gigantic chasm we call conscience. CON science. The operative word with these technologies is 'artificial'. Utilize the divine intelligence within. Stop searching & groping outside yourself.
Hoping that the AI chatbots commit mass suicide!
Well written Joe! Praying for you.
One solution- Anonymous speech is not Free Speech. All social media must have a real identity. The problem is, like newspapers, that all these social media companies use their subscription numbers to base advertising cost. If we make them use real persons with real identities they will loose the fake numbers they cheat the advertisers for. I use to work in newspaper production. You would not believe how many thousands of newspapers went into the trash compactor for recycling every day.
Raised by Wolves.